Wow, aren't you an idiot. just wow. I've read many dog training books, used many methods. Cesar has helped many dogs, many more than you, I'd imagine.His methods, used CORRECTLY, work. He is not kicking. Maybe you should learn to realllly watch what you are spouting off about..Don't bother to respond, I won't be back. sayonara.
I think so much can be taken out of context when you see portions of video. I would rather see the entire thing and base an opinion on that, than comment on something taken out of context with the intent to inflame it.Previous poster has a good point: how much exerience do you have training dogs? What titles have you earned on your dogs? In other words, what qualifies you to be an authority here?I'll go first: I have only trained my show dogs, and have never trained professionally, nor do I do any sort of competitive ring sport. In other words, while I do have an opinion about just about everything, I don't feel very qualified to judge Cesear in this clip.
If you don't see kicks, you're blind. For some reason, the Dog Dominator (excellent appellation, btw) seems to inspire the oddest fan-atic-s who just accept anything he does as the word from on high. It's truly weird and somewhat scary.
Kate I see kicks - but I also only see a moment in time, so not what went into the entire thing. Is he kicking? Yes. I have also seen harsher techniques used in certain situations with good result. I know one method does NOT work for each and every dog - which is why we have Cesars - and why we have Brian Kilcommons and Sarah Pryor et al. One thing for sure - the video was intended to stir up flames and it did.
You don't need context. There is no context. Kicking is not a training method, you don't need to see the 10 seconds before, or the 10 seconds after. Kicking is not a training method. Kicking is not a training method. (neither is choking with a selfmade slip)
Agree -kicking is not a training method. It is used in this context as a correction.I don't have a problem with a self made slip - but I do think all the special collars trainers invent and sell to fools wanting to part with their money are just plain stupid.
Kicking is not a correction when the dog doesn't undstand WHY they are being kicked. Cesar's timing is inconsistant - he often kicks before the dog actually does anything other than try to move away from another dog, and he often kicks after the dog has already been 'aggressive' for a few strides. Because Cesar doesn't reward any good behavior - and sets dogs up to fail because that makes for more 'dramatic' moments - he isn't training dogs, he's just punishing them. Constant correcting will never teach the dog what they should do. All they end up hearing and physically feeling is "don't" "don't" "don't." Try that on a kid you are trying to potty-train or teach reading skills to. It doesn't work and will only shut off the kid's willingness (and their ability) to even try to make any progress.
I came here because you posted on the fugly horse of the day blog, and I'm a dog lover as well as an equestrian. but this post made me sick.Hes obviously not kicking the dog in a tantrum trying to prove a point, the way he is doing it IS a training method. If you can find me one dog that has suffered bruising from these "kicks" or perhaps suffered internal bleeding from his training methods, THATS news. There are numerous other cases of dog abuse out there - this however is not one of them. I'm not sure why you chose to jump on this band wagon, but I will not be reading anymore of this junk
Anonymous - way to stand up for your man! We didn't say he was having a tantrum - he does this sideways lift of his lower leg upwards and to the side - quite deliberately. If an adult did this maneuver to a kid walking beside them, because they did anything short of shooting the adult, it would be termed 'abuse.' I didn't say it was 'abuse' to the dog, precisely because it (most likely) isn't done in a huge motion that (generally) lifts the dog up and then causes it to fall down in pain (at least not that we ever see - the powers of editing after filming, don'tcha know). I did say that using this leg motion (it's a kick, just ask any physiologist) as a 'correction' is stupid because it doesn't teach the dog a different (better) behavior, all it does is cause it to mask its feelings and responses, and every time the dog is put into the same type of situation, it is more and more stressed, which is not helping anyone, dog or human.
I was hoping you would respond. Is this your article? As I said, show me evidence of a dog suffering from this and I will agree with you.Way to make your response into a personal attack by calling him "my man". I am Canadian and have never heard of this show until I read this. Unless you have facts, and no more fluff, I maintain that this is not abusive method.
That message wasn't even talking to you for chrissake! Why did you take it so personally that it caused you to respond?? I'm sorry if I offended you with my opinion.
You're the one who made the claim that since he wasn't kicking the dog(s) "in a tantrum" - which is not what anyone said in the first place. I took exception to your opinion because you purposefully said what he was doing "IS a training method" and it's not. Well, it might be considered a training method by someone who has a short temper and not many tools in their training kit, which might be you, for all I know. And, again, the point is NOT that a dog suffers internal bleeding - which we never said they did - but that it doesn't teach the dog anything, except maybe to learn to dodge to side when the human raises their leg. And, it lessens (eventually destroys) the dog's trust in the 'trainer', which really shouldn't be what one is going for.
I was enjoying this blog right up until I watched this video and the one before (or after as the case may be) Ceasar uses the "kick" as a way to get the dogs attention when they have done something they're not supposed to do. What would you have done in those situations? Let the dog continue the bad behavior with a few leash jerks and some "No Bossy! Bad dog" thrown in. Dogs don't actually understand English. They learn by repetition and by the inflections our voices make on certain words. When you say "Let's go for a walk." they don't actually hear the word walk. They recognize the sounds you're making and combine them with putting on the leash and going outside in their minds.I've only ever heard one bad thing about Ceasar and that was last year or the year before, that whole debacle with the dog strangling itself on the treadmill because someone left it there unsupervised. Not necessarily Ceasar himself.Some people just have to have someone to dislike and rant about. Guess Ceasar is yours. A lot more people like and respect what Ceasar has done and continues to do, so I guess they can just ignore the few "haters" there are out there *chuckle*
It's not a kick. I've done this with my dogs before there was even a Cesar Millan show. It's a tap with the foot to grab their attention. It works too. Sure beats jerking on a dogs neck like you see a lot of "Professional Trainers" doing.